Dizmm V.2 Project Thread

[Dizmm]

http://www.dsmsupport.com/projectdv2.html

[cms9690]

The pictures on the 3rd page...

Are you trying to make a targa top or somthing?.. I didn't get it. :confused:

[BoostinPower]

He wanted a big sunroof ;p

He is eliminating the sunroof that was on it.. The car that has the top chopped off is a parts car I think.

[Jake]

It says at the start of the page, "converting the sunroof into a non-sunroof car".

I was just about to say, I'm doing a targa top on my talon too. But there was way too much cut out of that to make a targa. :)

Lookin good! Did the body twist at all when you cut it out seeing you dont have a cage?

[BoostinPower]

It shouldnt have, since he only cut the section where the sunroof was.. The main support was still intact..

[Jake]

You'd be surprised on how much the roof holds together.

I wont cut the roof off of my car until I have it fully mounted on a steel bed so the chassis doesnt twist. When Dre did his targa, he noticed a major flex, especially when driving. Good way to tell is jack the car up directly under the door handle and see if the gap on the door changes.

Just a thought before you cut the roof off the good car.

[Dizmm]

yeah, this car was up on a hoist, and when we cut the 2 front A-pillers, the entire body flexed a good half an inch to nearly an inch. I think these chassis are kinda week.

[Jake]

I figured it did but I have yet to cut the roof of my car so I didnt know.

How are you planning on cutting the roof off the good car?

[Dizmm]

I figured it did but I have yet to cut the roof of my car so I didnt know.

How are you planning on cutting the roof off the good car?

To answer you honestly, I don’t know...

2 options,

Option 1: cutting at all the pillars very carefully. I'd have to remove the windshield, and the 2 rear side windows.

Option 2:just cut a template out of the sunroof hole on my car (the good car), then use that template to cut out the exact same shape on the "parts" roof. That way the metal will have the same curvature of the new roof. Weld it from underneath, maybe put a few braces in there so the new piece of metal wont flex too much. then fill in the small cracks with some mud, sand her all down and paint it.

Either route, I probably wont do this myself, I'd rather have it look good if not great rather than look like dump. I maybe could do it and it would look ok, but i have a friend that owns a body shop and does it for a living that will cut me a deal. I'll leave it to a pro!

[turbo chick]

Why are you getting rid of the sunroof? You should just leave it.

[BoostinPower]

That was one thing I looked for in my new car was the sunroof.. Gotta enjoy just cruising with the sunroof open ;)

[Stash]

That was one thing I looked for in my new car was the sunroof.. Gotta enjoy just cruising with the sunroof open ;)

That shouldn't have been too hard. I think I have seen one GSX that didn't have a sunroof, fairly rare find. I have to wonder if it is really worth the time, effort and money. Is eliminating that wieght going to make a noticable difference? I could understand looking for a car without one, but seems like too much off a pain in the ass with the risk off it not turning out very good. I would just wait and see if someone comes through with one of those CF sunroof plugs. But of course, this is my opinion.

[Dizmm]

Well, to start with, the sunroof was gone when i got the car. It was replaced with a piece of plexiglass. and it was cracked and looked like crap. A sunroof assembly weighs about 70lbs, and thats a lot of weight that is at the highest point in the car. By removing the sunroof, you will lower your center of gravity quite a bit. The top of my roof already needs to be repainted because of 4 wholes that Jtoby drilled into the roof. Not sure what Jtoby was thinking at the time, but thats one thing he did on this car that looked like crap.

[Stash]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/286169-new-carbon-fiber-ideas-4.html

2g Sunroof Plug
1. Primedtsi
2. fp-green-95tsi
3. housegsx
4. OutlawDSM
5.drewgray
6. Boost Junkie
7. gsxAWDdsm692
8. Dallas J





There is large interest in a 2g CF sunroof plug. Ken Davis(Primedtsi) was the first on the list, which was today and there are already 7 others that want one as well. Seems like this company is capable of making it happen, looking at all the other products they make a simple plug should be a cake walk. But I guess you don't want to hold out too long as spring is approaching quickly?

[Dizmm]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/286169-new-carbon-fiber-ideas-4.html

2g Sunroof Plug
1. Primedtsi
2. fp-green-95tsi
3. housegsx
4. OutlawDSM
5.drewgray
6. Boost Junkie
7. gsxAWDdsm692
8. Dallas J





There is large interest in a 2g CF sunroof plug. Ken Davis(Primedtsi) was the first on the list, which was today and there are already 7 others that want one as well. Seems like this company is capable of making it happen, looking at all the other products they make a simple plug should be a cake walk. But I guess you don't want to hold out too long as spring is approaching quickly?

this is like the 2nd time i have seen a list started. I even started one a while back on a carbon fiber parts thread on tuners. seems like they get a few people on the list and then its forgotten. I'll subscribe, and if they make it within a month or two, i will jsut throw a piece of plexiglass on the roof and use that for a little while. car wont be drivin in rain, or at least it doesn't have to be.

[Stash]

It just seems as though that would be so much easier. It would suck to go through all of the work welding in a new roof or section of roof, have it turn out OK, and then the plug becomes available right after.

[Jake]

this is like the 2nd time i have seen a list started. I even started one a while back on a carbon fiber parts thread on tuners. seems like they get a few people on the list and then its forgotten. I'll subscribe, and if they make it within a month or two, i will jsut throw a piece of plexiglass on the roof and use that for a little while. car wont be drivin in rain, or at least it doesn't have to be.

If you buy one, I will definitely be interested in the "solid" top that you cut off the spare car. I need one for a "spare/changeable" piece for the targa.

[Dizmm]

If you buy one, I will definitely be interested in the "solid" top that you cut off the spare car. I need one for a "spare/changeable" piece for the targa.

Sounds good. I am going to PM the Vendor on DSMtuners that is offering CF parts and see if I can get a production date and price on the carbon fiber sunroof plug. I'll let ya know Jake.

[BoostinPower]

Jake, You have any pictures of a targa top on an eclipse? Im kinda interested in that look..

[Devlish]

how would the plug attach? would you need all the original mounting stuff for the sunroof etc?... in order to attach the plug? or is it going to need to be bolted or adhered on someway??? then what about it cracking? and don't tell me CF is oooo-sooo strong, i've used it before. in a flat piece, it's not strong. no stronger than sheetmetal. and will be prone to cracking. metal doesn't crack. you can reinforce the sheetmetal by tacking thin metal strips across the top. you cant reinforce a flat piece of CF.

personally, i think the piece of metal welded on and smoothed would be the way to go. not to mention, dizmm still has 4 holes in the roof from the previous owner that need to be filled in yet.

[Dizmm]

how would the plug attach? would you need all the original mounting stuff for the sunroof etc?... in order to attach the plug? or is it going to need to be bolted or adhered on someway??? then what about it cracking? and don't tell me CF is oooo-sooo strong, i've used it before. in a flat piece, it's not strong. no stronger than sheetmetal. and will be prone to cracking. metal doesn't crack. you can reinforce the sheetmetal by tacking thin metal strips across the top. you cant reinforce a flat piece of CF.

personally, i think the piece of metal welded on and smoothed would be the way to go. not to mention, dizmm still has 4 holes in the roof from the previous owner that need to be filled in yet.

I'd rather do a CF sunroof. Easier, cooler to say i have a CF roof(ish). It would most likely bolt up like the stock sunroof assembly. Or at least I am guessing. We'll see

[Devlish]

so then the only weight you'd be removing is the glass. which is heavy, yes... but probably not as heavy as the motor and arms, etc. then you still got 4 holes up there.

i agree, CF would be neater tho.

[Dizmm]

so then the only weight you'd be removing is the glass. which is heavy, yes... but probably not as heavy as the motor and arms, etc. then you still got 4 holes up there.

i agree, CF would be neater tho.

I believe they would get rid of the complete assembly for the sunroof, (or at least I would hope) and it would just bolt right up to where the stock sunroof assembly would go. The glass is about 70% of the weight in the sunroof assembly.

[Dizmm]

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/03-20-08_1414.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/03-20-08_1416.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/03-20-08_1417.jpg

[BoostinPower]

daaaammnnn.. What did that run ya?

[Dizmm]

daaaammnnn.. What did that run ya?

All said and done with an extra set of full race pads, it was about $1800 or so. i dont recall that exact price.

[Jake]

Damn those look nice! I'm guessing for the fronts only or was that price for all 4 corners?

I havent decided yet, I'm between these and Brakeman's. These definitely have more meat to them, thats for sure!

[Dizmm]

this was just for the front. The pictures really dont do these things justice, they look twice the size in person.

[Coty]

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/03-20-08_1414.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/03-20-08_1416.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/03-20-08_1417.jpg

MMMMMM, unsprung weight drastically reduced.

[Dizmm]

MMMMMM, unsprung weight drastically reduced.

i dunno, i am going to weigh the difference of the stock brake setup vs this setup. The rotors are pritty heavy being 13in x 1.25in. The calipers are much lighter however which is a plus.

I should have them on this next week and I'll post up some results.

[Dizmm]

Well, i installed the big brakes in Dizmm Version 2.0, and holy balls. They will lockup my street tires no problem, but with some thresh-hold braking I can overcome that. I installed the race brake pads as RA is only a few weeks away. Well, I really cant even drive on the street with them without making dogs bark within a 1 mile radius. The screech and squeal so loud its not even funny. I will have to throw the street pads back on until i get to Road America.

[Dizmm]

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_3914.jpg
http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_3909.jpg

Welded in a test pipe. Had a cat in there, hoping i see some increase spoolup!!
http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_3918.jpg

[TSi_II]

A guy I parked next to on campus today solved your sunroof problem...

Uber JDM construction paper, duct tape and seran wrap sunroof plug:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/x_hiz_alwayz_x/Michael/04-09-08_1520.jpg

If you're feelin frisky, cut your bumper in half to allow more flow to the intercooler as well as the important radiator so many people forget about:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/x_hiz_alwayz_x/Michael/04-09-08_1521.jpg

[ExtremeDSM]

That car is on craigslist somewhere.

[TSi_II]

Yup... I think he wanted $3,300 for it or something.... Hah.

[Dizmm]

bringing this thread back,

Dv2's engine died at BHF, new 6 bolt is in the works, progress pics to come. 6 bolt block is at the machine shop along with a crank, and going with 1g rods with 2g pistons.

[FLASH1970]

bringing this thread back,

Dv2's engine died at BHF, new 6 bolt is in the works, progress pics to come. 6 bolt block is at the machine shop along with a crank, and going with 1g rods with 2g pistons.

That sucks. Hope it gets back up and running soon.

[Dizmm]

yup, hopefully next weekend she'll be all up and running.

[TSi_II]

Flash, is your avatar a picture of Dizmm's brakes?

[Dizmm]

Flash, is your avatar a picture of Dizmm's brakes?

yeah, do the rest of you have a problem not being able to upload an avatar???

[Devlish]

testing...

EDIT: nope, my avatar works just fine

<<--- see!??!

[Dizmm]

testing...

EDIT: nope, my avatar works just fine

<<--- see!??!

your a mod, i am talking about a regular member.

[TSi_II]

I don't have an option to have an avatar anywhere, just a profile picture.

[Dizmm]

all avatar stuff is fixed, everyone can now upload their own with a max res of 150 x 150.

[TSi_II]

Sweet, back to the DV2 business then!

[Devlish]

your a mod, i am talking about a regular member.

meh, i know. what's your point? it still works.

[Dizmm]

2g Higher compression pistons on the earlier 1g Rods:

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/img048.jpg
http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/img051.jpg

Had to have some machine work done to the 1g rods to fit the 2g pistons, should work out really nicely though!!
More pics to come...

[Devlish]

good luck finishing that up tonight Dizmm... ihope you get a little sleep at least. sorry i coudln't stay and help at all... need my sleep, got a long busy day tomoro.

hope that ridge reamer is working...

[Pointdsm]

Get a different block...a motor driven that hard, for that long, with a ridge that big....I wouldn't put my piston in it.

[Dizmm]

Get a different block...a motor driven that hard, for that long, with a ridge that big....I wouldn't put my piston in it.

no ridge anymore. ringe reamer took care of it!!!

[Stash]

good luck finishing that up tonight Dizmm... ihope you get a little sleep at least. sorry i coudln't stay and help at all... need my sleep, got a long busy day tomoro.

hope that ridge reamer is working...

Oh, gotta get your beauty sleep.:rolleyes: I stayed up all yesterday finishing my car then drove it to work. Sleep is highly overrated.:D Although seeing as its not your car I can see the lack of motivation.

[Devlish]

how about the motivation to run a business the next day, and coach my son's soccer team?

if you show up to work tired, you might get a slap on the hand, but the company will still make money. if i show up tired as hell and become unproductive....

i'd help him with his car anytime he needs... if he asked me to stay i surely would have. but anyways... how far did you get last night dizmm?

[Dizmm]

motor is nearly all back together, but kinda got held up as i need a few little parts from FRONK yet.

i still cant beleave how well that ridge reamer thing worked.

[Dizmm]

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4158.jpg

[Dizmm]

Well, at about 4am this morning the new engine was in the car and running. few small things to do yet before its fully trackable.

Quick version:
6 bolt swap using 2g pistons on 1g rods, and the 2g head. All new ACL Race bearings, all new ARP main & Head bolts, new OEM rings. Basically a full fresh motor.

Had really no issues other than a small lip at the top of the cylinder wall, which thanks to the help of a local performance shop bringing over his rim-reamer thingy, the lip was gone.

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4141.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4143.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4148.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4151.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4155.jpg

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_4158.jpg

[BoostinPower]

good to see! now you wont be able to tell those domestic homo's that your on the original motor :(

[Dizmm]

well, cars 98% all back together. just needs a hood and the clutch readjusted.

[Devlish]

sounds like a lot of work. good thing i dropped off some ice cream for a short break last night.

its looking like a car again finaly...

[Dizmm]

well, car has about 30 miles on it now, runs great!!! Pulls strong, compression came back about 165 on all 4. I hope this motor will last.

[DontStopMe]

Nice work Andy! You'll be probably be kicking some ass with it at the auto-X on Sunday.

[Dizmm]

Nice work Andy! You'll be probably be kicking some ass with it at the auto-X on Sunday.


I hope so, we'll see.

just put another 30 city miles on it tonight, she really moves, better than before. not sure if i should really keep the meth injection on for the auto-x though. I'd like to play it safe.

[lucky4586]

And now it has a younger brother in the garage

[Dizmm]

And now it has a younger brother in the garage

yup, :D

[BoostinPower]

Pictures!

[Dizmm]

well here she is, 2nd day of ownership I took it around shawano for a few fun laps.

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/myevo/original.jpg

[TSi_II]

I see... so you picked up that one. I was scared it was going to be silver, lol. Very nice.

I like the thumbs up.

[BoostinPower]

Looks familiar^^

[Dizmm]

I miss this car:
http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/My%20Cars/DSC_1136e-1.jpg

[BoostinPower]

Time for v3!!

[FLASH1970]

yeah Dizmm, I got to see it once in person and it was nice. I can see why you'd miss it. Maybe time to get another one...

[Dizmm]

The problem is, the cost to try and duplicate Dv2 would be about the same as an evo. The evo is like a mildly modded DSM, its got the big brake kit, 16g, 550 inj, and 2 extra doors as a bonus.

[BoostinPower]

true enough. But everyone expects an evo to be quick^^