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Laserj
06-13-2009, 12:04 AM
Very interesting. Very short route, imagine the throttle response.

Original thread: http://www.orldsm.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13236

http://www.orldsm.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2595&d=1236906913

Stash
06-13-2009, 12:51 AM
If I was going to mount an IC in that position I would go with a liquid/air setup. Also, short route piping does not make a big difference in my personal experiences.

tec_41
06-13-2009, 01:42 AM
Pretty creative :)

mechacode
06-13-2009, 01:51 AM
Creative but stupid place to mount it considering all the heat sources right there.

slowvr4
06-13-2009, 06:24 AM
Creative but stupid place to mount it considering all the heat sources right there.

And Sti's are so different? Besides look at the gigantic heat shield. I'd run that before no air filter:eek:

Pirkeltooned
06-13-2009, 10:47 AM
Creative but stupid place to mount it considering all the heat sources right there.

Not really, if you read up on his thread in that link, he's got a real nice fan setup to eliminate head soaking on dead traffic, other than that, he's got the best setup for air to air that I can think of. He's also forcing air down through the intercooler over the top of the transmission, and im very doubtful that he's receiving any more heat than a massive fmic infront of a radiator would (Since we are only talking about heat soak when not cruising or banging gears, he's more efficient) Extremely short piping, direct airflow from the cars aero, a misting setup under boost, not to mention all that airflow is going to go back into the engine and probably helps it stay cooler then a normal dsm (I guess a hole in the hood could do that for any car lol!) Pretty slick & original.

Pirkeltooned
06-13-2009, 10:49 AM
And Sti's are so different? Besides look at the gigantic heat shield. I'd run that before no air filter:eek:

Notice that the exhaust shielding was built for a purpose, not for visual enjoyment. It appears to wrap all the way around the exhaust manifold, which I guess would provide a much better containment for heat off of the exhaust manifold then stock, HOWEVER, Im pretty confident that $20 in exhaust wrapping would prove more efficient with noticable gains. But hey, if your into doing stuff different like that guy, to each his own?

Dizmm
06-13-2009, 11:08 AM
neat idea, but a big sidemount could do the same job i think.

mechacode
06-13-2009, 02:54 PM
Putting air into the engine bay with nowhere for it to go but under the car is a big no no. It'll have heat from the radiator, the engine, and the trans all radiating into that area and no amount of fans are going to keep it from getting heatsoaked once he turns the boost up past the 15psi he's running. It would have been better to have brought cool air from the front of the car, ducted it up through the ic and then back out of the hood into the low pressure zone in effect reducing air under the car and getting cooler temps. It makes everyone ooh and aah but when you really look at it, it's not a good idea. Now if he had put it on top of the valve cover ala the RVR and the sti, it would be better off.

Laserj
06-14-2009, 08:13 AM
I think it's a really great idea, and it sounds like the guy knows what he's doing. People are saying that you have to see this in person cause pictures don't do it justice. I guess he has made some modifications to it since the above picture was taken.

He lives in FL, so you could imagine the temps. He sees 3psi at 1800 rpm. It is 10 degrees below ambient, and 122 degrees in difference from the inlet to the outlet. I doubt you would ever see those drops on WRX intercooler. The design of the hood isn't any different of WRX too. Air comes in from the front and the top.

The guy is also doing a setup for degreeing your cams without removing the timing belt and with oem gears.??!

mechacode
06-14-2009, 03:14 PM
What's the point in having 3psi at 1800rpm if it heatsoaks after the first run? His ait are high the way it is at 15psi. I've logged as low as 81* ait with 18lbs on a proper front mount.

Dizmm
06-14-2009, 09:18 PM
his design may work with certain turbos at a certain boost level. its always cool to see people trying new things. however a T28 with a proper sized FMIC should have full boost before 3k rpms.